This is the third day and I have not taken it today. I must say, as soon as I ate small portions of that chocolate cake and other sweets I felt significantly worse. As for p5p, the linked LE article details how p5p is protective against various forms of damage to the kidneys so it's smart to be taking it. Depending on results, sides, body response/reaction etc. Due to its influences on cognition and sexuality, it is currently being investigated for its effects on testosterone. By accident I discovered that p5p has those effects it has. When I apply it to my testicle area it feels like having used a dht cream in that I can achieve a mild "erection" feeling. Have to say, this is the real thing. Supplement Forums; Supplements; Bulbine Natalensis testosterone booster. The product is the whole herb chopped up and not only parts of it, and the whole plant when ingested tends to cause diarrhea (read the reviews on the bulkpowders.co.uk site). Don't add me to the active users list. I read about its liver and kidney toxicity but that seems to be disputed by its users who reference safety studies that discard the notion of toxicity higher than placebo. It also seems to cause cold fingers and weird cold or "loss of blood" sensations in various parts of the body, comparable to how some nitric oxide and blood thinner supplements do. After the 3rd time urinating I still feel a noticeable urge to urinate, this Bulbine surely has some diuretic effect. Part 3 - Other Benefits For Men Part 4 - Other Benefits For Everyone Part 5 - Side Effects Part 6 - Bonus: Reddit Questions Part 7 - Human Dosage Part 8 - My Opinion And Guidelines I'm willing to give the herb one last shot with the extract version (dosage is 350mg per cap which seems significantly lower too, compared to the 750mg tablets of which the directions even say to take 3 of these tablets, are they insane?). Wasn't it the opposite, that I took 2x750mg first day and yesterday only 1x750mg? [Which is complete rubbish.. these products are marketed to cure a disease, and purchased to cure a disease. Actually a little bit more but it's almost only a few "streaks" each time, though I felt the "load" every time I had finished. Right now I have a mild diarrhea that I've had for about 4 days. It did have a smell. I was talking enzyme elevations - I was not aware there were structural alterations in the organs in question, dont know how I missed that, cause remember reading that study - so thanks for pointing it out man. Who does that? Do you read the warnings on the supplements you buy? But my stools are yellowish-greenish and very fatty... Oh, I also forgot to add that immediately upon transdermal application I feel a need to urinate. How much do you weigh? Discussion in 'Anabolic Steroids & Prohormones' started by Dorm3r, Jun 27, 2017. What recommendations are there for mitigating the renal and hepatic side-effects of Bulbine (I've had no evidence of hepatic issues.. yet)? You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. I usually do 4 weeks on, 2 off. Because of the intestine-thing, I'm quitting supplementation for the time being for sure. Zinc gives me pimples, too. The statements contained on this product have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. When I don't move I feel that I have abnormally much energy but as soon as I move (and I'm big, so I can't take much) it's back to normal in terms of poor endurance. It could be that it causes the excretion of glucose which would help people with hyperglycemia, but I haven't read any studies on that. Is it irresponsible what they are doing? I hope this is just anxiety. inner thigh or stomach area, whichever you prefer - but testicle and wrist area should be best. I've seen several transdermal Bulbine kits sold for application to testicle area, I just don't want to waste more money on trying different varieties. Well, I’ve got a friend who is a MMA fighter who loved the stuff…but you’ve never heard of him. However, this way would be very dangerous to the health that it might cause your death. Please consult with a health care professional before starting any diet [again, complete rubbish. I take about two per day. Yeah I also read, that in rats, to high a dose of Bulbine Natalensis could have the opposite effect. But while history may vouch for the potential of this plant, it h… Hmm.. Just lost a long post I made in my edited post to "you don't have permission to do that".. sigh. Not touching non-extract whole-herb bulbine natalensis with a ten-foot pole. Would be great if you could describe in detail if there's anything to describe, and would also be great if you could give updates after a while as to whether it's still working. A part of my lower left back area (not spine) is slightly painful and pain comes and goes... Update: pulse is now down to 55 and I am feeling even colder and slightly weak in my body. This is the oddest herb I have ever dealt with. Sure man, just something to keep in mind... Like if you use it here and there i think its fine, but i guess it wouldnt be a good idea to use for a PCT, specially if the cycle already had orals in it. Just a heads up. Making it topically effective against arthritis[1]! It's probably irrelevant to the Bulbine and might have to do with the meat I've been eating. 11 studies in Pubmed, shouldn't take long. Is there any difference between this and DAA. None of that honestly. (2009)The effects of aqueous extract of Bulbine natalensis Baker stem at 25, 50, and 100 mg/kg of body weight for 14 days on the functional indices of liver and kidney as well as the histology of the rat organs were evaluated. You would stumble on something like this (minus my annotations): Product XYZ is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. Bulbine natalensis is an indigenous African botanical that is traditionally used in South African herbal medicine to improve potency in men (as an aphrodisiac). No side-effect whatsoever. I regret I belatedly discovered that one can easily import the african 'afrigetics' extract used in clinical trials (link). The alterations produced in some of the functional indices as well as in the hepatorenal architecture may adversely affect the normal hepatic and renal functions. Bulbine Natalensis is a South African shrub that has been used in traditional medicine to treat a variety of conditions including diabetes and convulsions. My head was hot like crazy. The alterations produced in some of the functional indices as well as in the hepatorenal architecture may adversely affect the normal hepatic and renal functions. Surely the kidney and liver doesn't grow that much just because you're a lot bigger in your bones. Then use it on the inner wrist area or testicle area. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Jun 27, 2017. That will be the real test, I'm under 200lbs and I've had good results from just 350 mg and I always use it for 6 weeks. Did you notice any of the things I did like coldness in certain places of the body, sensitivity to sweet foods, sweet smelling and foamy urine? An hour later I ate the meatballs I had cooked. But otherwise, it's raising some red flags. (link). Bulbine Natalensis is a potent African herb that has become a popular addition to supplement stacks catered to those who want to boost libido and testosterone levels. Too much Bulbine could have the opposite effect. I've begun eating a sweet chocolate cake just after my 5th time urinating and I hope it doesn't mean trouble if my kidneys are failing me. Is it irresponsible what they are doing? But I was definitely scared, especially if the kidneys can be permanently damaged. If this is for what I think it's for (which it most certainly is) you best stick to the likes of ginger and boron. Jul 22, 2017 - Bulbine is a family of succulent like rare species. Please share your experiences (I know it's called Brain Health..). Never mind, I had brown-ish urine and intestinal discomfort today. As no scientific studies have been performed to find the exact dosage to see testosterone-based benefits, it’s tough to say. It appears to both be slightly calming (is claimed to be anticonvulsive) yet also inducing depressive thinking. But with bulbine, if you're using the whole plant, I might expect even more side effects from the extract. You must log in or register to reply here. Bulbine Natalensis is also likely to be an excellent addition to an OTC PCT (over the counter post cycle therapy) stack, following a prohormone cycle. Kind of amusing. However, the 50 and 100 mg/kg of body weight doses reduced the liver- and kidney-body weight ratios by the end of the experimental period. Men who experience this usually resolved to take some medicines. . 5 minutes again and it was the same with the urine. Bulbine Natalensis is a herb, indigenous to South Africa. I've added Bulbine to an alcohol solution and let it sit for a day in a closed bottle and then applied some to my wrist area as well as jewel area. levels (obviously unbelievable but still). The dosing seems, in rats, to have a inverse U relationship to testosterone, a sem linear downwards relationship to estrogen. For WHO? Probably, but that's besides the point. I'm guessing it will "work" better out-of-the-box. Man, throw this fucking shit to the trash, it is not worth it. Edited by RatherBeUnknown, 24 September 2016 - 09:31 AM. Edited by RatherBeUnknown, 24 September 2016 - 06:04 AM. My whole body is also very itchy but this could be chlorine in the water. (obviously this could be caused by many things but I have reasons to suspect it's bulbine). Today I woke up with a strong libido so I can say that it has been doing something. This might be the diarrhea issue. I'll look into Bulbine Natalensis for Examine I guess; I'm trying to index all existent testosterone boosters at this moment in time and we don't have that one. Maybe consider adding another natural anabolic if your goal is strength and lean mass. Received 60-count bottle of 5:1 stem extract of bulbine natalensis I ordered. I've ran sns bulbine several times and being a former alcoholic has caused my liver enzymes to be borderline. Smell of urine is oddly sweetish but this is the first time I've had this problem and I am not diabetic. manage to take anadrol everyday or any of the other toxic ones, without apparently damaging their organs. I dont think Ill bother making another order just to try it. There are no such statements on the product (it's Bulkpowders). Jun 27, 2017. Even if the supplier has neglected to label it with the proper warning, still be cautious! Right now I've urinated for the 5th time and immediately feel a need to do so again. Its historical value begins with the South African Zulu people, who are known to have ingested the supposedly stimulating herb before battle in order to boost stamina or power. Effect of Bulbine natalensis Baker stem extract on the functional indices and histology of the liver and kidney of male Wistar rats. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. But because what little you absorb will completely bypass the liver. I am not sure if this could be because of the alcohol or if it could be only when administrated to the groin area. Edited by William Sterog, 05 October 2016 - 03:39 PM. Do you feel the same effect on urination, blood, etc? The study performed on the safety of Bulbine Natalensis had subjects taking 650 mg throughout the day (325 mg in the morning and 325 mg in the evening). Hours later and I am still burning and feeling odd. The dosing seems, in rats, to have a inverse U relationship to testosterone, a sem linear downwards relationship to estrogen. But continuing on...]. How Much Bulbine Natalensis to Take to See Results? I've never heard of someone running over 700mg with any more success than 700mg. After the urine test I've taken a bath and this has slightly removed the coldness in my body but it's definitely still there. My doctor knows less about nutrition than many of us], exercise or supplementation program [including Bulbine natalensis], before taking any medication, or if you suspect you might have a health problem [including kidney failure]. But unlike with oral administration this is only once or twice or so, as opposed to throughout the day. A marker in myself for androgenicity is waking up with my hands in my underwear. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I will make a follow up on my condition as long as the side effects don't subside (they're claimed to worsen with time by studies). I recently bought Bulbine Natalensis as with other things only out of pure curiosity. Haven't been dosing with the bulbine for some days now though. Why continue to take a supplement when you've had a very concerning, adverse reaction? Im not sure I remember correctly, but I recall one study showing 2 % elevated liver enzymes (cannot recall which enzyme) in rats after some weeks of usage. I have adverse effects from only 1 a day and I weigh more than most people. The urination and intestine pain sound about right for someone who drank a lot of tea after food poisoning. This article has 40 key points and totals almost 5,000 words. This time my urine color is more transparent, more like water, and perhaps the sweet smell is slightly reduced (or increased, very difficult to tell). Also a chance it puts a little strain on the liver but really no need for concern. Edited by RatherBeUnknown, 05 October 2016 - 11:22 AM. Getting pimples within the first days of taking 2 caps a day. The information provided on this pamphlet is not intended as a substitute for advice from your physician or other health care professional, or any information contained on or in any product label or packaging. Edited by RatherBeUnknown, 24 September 2016 - 09:22 AM. Smell could be due to artificial sweeteners in my sugar-free (5g per 2 liters) ice tea I am drinking. Bulbine Natalensis. were caused by the supposed "anti-diabetic" effects of Bulbine. and according to http://www.lifeexten...Disease/Page-01 p5p may be effective in preventing some kidney issues/failure/damage. 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